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kodakmak
software to increase RAM with microsd card
Feb 4 2009, 10:52 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 4 2009, 10:52 PM EST
is there a way to use the flash card as RAM? If you can do it on a PC there ought to be a way to do it on a pocket PC. 4  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
Keyword tags: MOGUL; Memory; RAM
Eckling
Eckling
1. RE: software to increase RAM with microsd card
Feb 26 2009, 9:56 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2009, 9:56 AM EST
I am also another one who would not mind having lots more RAM than this phone comes with. I'd send my phone in for a RAM upgrade if THAT was possible as well. I like to have a nice full cushion of RAM instead of maxing every last little bit that I have, which makes the source coding delve into the resources of the phone itself and causes heatups, battery life to die, and even crashes and lockups.

More RAM for this phone would definitely be a smart career move for me. I sure wish it was possible. 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
denco7
denco7
2. RE: software to increase RAM with microsd card
Feb 26 2009, 10:08 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2009, 10:08 AM EST
"is there a way to use the flash card as RAM? If you can do it on a PC there ought to be a way to do it on a pocket PC."
I would like to design and host web sites on my phone, If you can do it on a PC there ought to be a way to do it on a Pocket PC ? LOL

Unfortunately, the chip size and power ( no fans, no heat sink ) limit what you can do on your phone. Flash memory only allows so much. While the newer phones are coming out with more and more internal ram, phones are still a lot more disposable than PCs and the companies would rather you buy a new phone than make ( older ? ) ones upgradeable. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

kodakmak
3. RE: software to increase RAM with microsd card
Feb 26 2009, 10:49 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2009, 10:49 AM EST
With all due respect, that is the absolute lamest excuse I have ever heard! Flash memory has nothing to do with chip size, heat, or power (other than battery life). I've seen people do some amazing things to their PPC's and utilizing flash memory is a software issue not hardware... Think about it if you are utilizing Flash to run programs and hold your PIM, there would be less demand on the internal ram and less heat! I am not a programmer (yet), but this seems rather obvious. And as far as designing WEB sites--- that is only a matter of time.
BTW, I am not asking if the Phone makers for a way I am asking if the developer community has come up with a solution. I'll find it sooner or later!
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denco7
denco7
4. RE: software to increase RAM with microsd card
Feb 26 2009, 12:22 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2009, 12:25 PM EST
Number One, who do you think you are talking to , the president of HTC ? I am a Tilt user and fellow ppc enthusiast, I am not making excuses for myself or anyone else.
I was pointing out both the size and power limitations of the phone as it is. And also the desire of the manufacturers and the consumers to make it any more than it is. IT's a phone, It's a phone, It's a phone, . We are not talking about storing contacts, or watching you tube, or running a few programs MS Word or Excel, If you are going to want to run processor intensive programs, that will generate heat, laws of physics. If you are going to edit and manipulate graphics (web site design ) , play graphically intensive games,you need a graphics accelerator, that generates heat.

I didn't say flash memory has anything to do with heat, the point was if you don't have the memory to store the GBs worth of programs that you have stored on your PC, then why would you go to all the trouble of trying to develop a processor for a ppc that could possibly run them. As far as can anyone come up with a way to access a storage card as virtual memory, to increase the ram to run programs. They probably could, but they are busy I am sure trying to get the phones to run faster, not slower.

Here is Texas Instruments answer to a more powerful " smartphone " do you want to carry this around in your pocket.
http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS3736623320.html





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denco7
denco7
8. RE: software to increase RAM with microsd card
Feb 26 2009, 2:55 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2009, 2:55 PM EST
Bump , to get offensive and useless previous posts off discussion page. Do you find this valuable?    

kodakmak
9. RE: software to increase RAM with microsd card
Feb 26 2009, 4:07 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2009, 4:07 PM EST
First, I am sorry if you are offended... I called it like I saw it. Second, I am not asking for a PC equivalent for a phone, but I would like to free up more of the on board RAM to do what a PPC/ PDA is supposed to do. Hold Email and contacts. My contact file is 12 MBs and I keep a lot of email for work as well. Adding flash memory is all I was asking for, I wasn't asking to do video or web editing or some other insane task. You responded that chip size power and heat limit what the phone can do if you weren't referring to my post, then why reply to it??? If you are irritated about people wanting more out of their phones, I can't help you. The whole concept of PPC is to get more and more from your phone.
BTW, thanks to t4t for the link, I will check it out.
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denco7
denco7
10. RE: software to increase RAM with microsd card
Feb 26 2009, 5:03 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 28 2009, 7:28 AM EST
I am not offended, it just seemed like you came back at me like I was hesd of HTC or something, giving lame excuses on why my phones didn't work. There are a lot about these phones that are compromises to cost, production, marketability and diversity of product line. Music, video, programs, can all be stored on a storage card freeing up internal storage. As far as ram goes , upgradable ram on PCs is so that processor intensive programs will run faster and smoother. My point was that if the size of these programs are too big to store on your phone, then what is the sense of having upgradable ram modules to run them.

Oh and you are talking to the king of wanting more and more out of your phone. On my Tilt I am running a custom spl ripped and tweaked from a TyNT II , I am running a custom rom cooked by a guy from Greece with a Manila interface ripped and ported from a Jade. I know all about wanting more from your PPC.

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piper18
piper18
11. RE: software to increase RAM with microsd card
Feb 27 2009, 1:21 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 27 2009, 1:21 AM EST
It would probable be possible but it would be slow. Normal ram is connected directly to the main bus and data is transferred in parallel but a SD card is not connected to the bus and all the information is transferred in series greatly slowing the process. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
kungfubass1961
kungfubass1961
12. RE: software to increase RAM with microsd card
Feb 27 2009, 10:39 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 27 2009, 10:39 PM EST
well said piper18, well be waiting for the tmobile wing-2 to come to the us, there saying it well be 3G ready and with lots of memory, then i can give my slow dash to my son hehe, Do you find this valuable?    
HTC.coen
HTC.coen
13. RE: software to increase RAM with microsd card
Sep 2 2011, 6:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 2 2011, 6:40 PM EDT
Excuse me, but may I ask what your name is? Mine is Peter, and I am the CEO of HTC. I am not keen of someone who says that their name is Dennis on their profile of this forum/wiki and play in the act of me. Thank You Do you find this valuable?    
HTC.coen
HTC.coen
14. RE: software to increase RAM with microsd card
Sep 2 2011, 6:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 2 2011, 6:47 PM EDT
"I am not offended, it just seemed like you came back at me like I was hesd of HTC or something, giving lame excuses on why my phones didn't work. There are a lot about these phones that are compromises to cost, production, marketability and diversity of product line. Music, video, programs, can all be stored on a storage card freeing up internal storage. As far as ram goes , upgradable ram on PCs is so that processor intensive programs will run faster and smoother. My point was that if the size of these programs are too big to store on your phone, then what is the sense of having upgradable ram modules to run them.

Oh and you are talking to the king of wanting more and more out of your phone. On my Tilt I am running a custom spl ripped and tweaked from a TyNT II , I am running a custom rom cooked by a guy from Greece with a Manila interface ripped and ported from a Jade. I know all about wanting more from your PPC.

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Do not play in the act of me please. You are definitely right about how applications, media, etc. can be stored onto microSD cards in HTC's devices. But i cannot tolerate very well on the fact that someone is trying to immitate me and stating that HTC all belongs to the CEO. Every single worker deserves credit for working hard so that we all may publish cellular devices and change the world. Do you find this valuable?    
HTC.coen
HTC.coen
15. RE: software to increase RAM with microsd card
Sep 2 2011, 6:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 2 2011, 6:49 PM EDT
"It would probable be possible but it would be slow. Normal ram is connected directly to the main bus and data is transferred in parallel but a SD card is not connected to the bus and all the information is transferred in series greatly slowing the process."
Thank you very much for your input, we will do the best we could to make our devices better. Do you find this valuable?